The conversation at the 33:27 mark resonated with me. “.. part of this revulsion with the imperfect world that we are living in,

This whole creation of a perfect and better world & this always .. probably the most dangerous fantasy human ever came up with, is the idea of the ability to create a perfect world not only because it causes you to feel very dissatisfied with the actual world around us but its an open check to do the most horrendous thing in the world.

If you look at the bottom line, yes we do all this horrible things but then we create the perfect world so in the end its worth it. We’ve learn this lesson again and again throughout history,

I hope we dont have to learn it again now that this fantasy of this perfect world is the most dangerous idea”

https://youtu.be/3HQo1wLspsg?si=-IhjqoolgqqKJZmq

I attended an online session along with other participants featuring a conversation with a minister and a lecturer from ISEAS , who is also an ustaz once.

At the end of the conversation, the ustaz repeatedly said, "You're are the chosen ones to attend this session." This remark irritated me, as I wanted to tell him, "No, I was not chosen to come here. I chose to attend because I wanted to see you in person, having read many of your articles on counter-terrorism.

Additionally, I wanted to see Madam MP as I had questions for her and was interested in how both of you would respond." In my view, the notion of being "the chosen ones" is a very dangerous idea. Historically, such ideas have been used to justify elitist and exclusionary ideologies. For example, Nazism exploited the concept of a "chosen" or superior Aryan race to promote their agenda of racial superiority and justify horrific acts of discrimination and violence. This kind of rhetoric can foster division, perpetuate a sense of undeserved entitlement, and undermine the principles of equality and mutual respect.

We must move away from the notion of being "chosen" and instead focus on the conscious choices and efforts individuals make to engage in dialogue, learn, and contribute to society. Emphasizing personal agency and responsibility promotes a more inclusive and democratic environment where everyone’s participation is valued equally, not because they are "chosen," but because they choose to contribute and engage.

To emphasize Yuval Noah Harari's statement, in my view, perfection does not exist in reality it is merely a construct of the human mind